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Post  turbodog on Thu 8 Apr - 0:21

I mentioned this project in my introduction thread:
http://classicbikes.actieforum.com/new-member-start-here-begin-hier-f3/hello-from-dallas-texas-usa-t1631.htm

I made some changes, and she is nearly finished and ready to ride. I hope to get my safety inspection sticker this coming weekend. Here are a few pics:









Let me know what you think!


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Post  sven on Thu 8 Apr - 0:36

I think she's everything but dirty...
In fact a very clean and nice looking bike!
Just iron the seat and you're done!

Good luck with the inspection!

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Post  BTNXSBOY on Thu 8 Apr - 0:40

Hello Turbodog

Good to hear you almost finish the bike
I like what you did with the engine
Very nice looks
Also want to know how many torque /horsepower she's got now
How is the frame without the second part

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Post  turbodog on Thu 8 Apr - 14:40

Thanks!
I would also like to know the HP and torque Laughing
It is a completely stock motor except for the intake, which will not help peak HP, but maybe increase torque a little.
I will let youknow if the frame modification affects handling. A very skilled person in Germany, Sepp Koch, does this on nearly every Yamaha XV he customizes (and he has customized quite a lot):
http://tr1.de/tr1/tr1_gallery_sepp.htm

He even races some with this modification, so I hope it will be OK.

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Post  sven on Thu 8 Apr - 17:57

turbodog wrote:Thanks!
He even races some with this modification, so I hope it will be OK.

I know Sepp from vintage racing - he is really fast and his bikes perform extremly well!

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Post  marc on Thu 8 Apr - 18:01

Nice bike!!


Easy clean and cool!!
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Post  turbodog on Wed 23 Mar - 16:29

A minor update on this bike. I swapped the stock exhaust for a 2:1 setup and Supertrapp slip-on:


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Post  TinTin on Wed 23 Mar - 22:11

much better (I like Supertrapp) but I would still try to lower the suspension...
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Post  Werner60 on Wed 23 Mar - 22:50

Looks much better than a stock "Viagra". For "ironing" the seat use a hairdryer to soften the covering. Then you can pull it smooth.
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Post  turbodog on Wed 23 Mar - 23:55

Lowering is in the plans. Been to busy riding it to make many changes. I also want to change the seat foam profile. Then I will cover it again, hopefully with smoother results this time!

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Post  kornfed on Thu 24 Mar - 0:22

Maybe you can try an other fueltank and seat to give it a more agressive look.
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Post  turbodog on Thu 24 Mar - 0:39

Agressive, or not... I like the lines of that tank. One of my favorites in all of motorcycling. Eh, so my taste is all in my mouth :) I realize it is not a 'cafe racer' tank. It is voluptuous. No mistake, the bike is a 'she'.

The purpose of this bike was to build quick from available spare parts in my shed ... and ride.

My other project may be the place for styling experimentation. Not sure there either. Keep the styling 'stock' (one of the main concepts in 'resto-modding')? Easiest, but the most boring.

Specifically go for traditional cafe racer styling? ....is cafe the new chopper? do it just because it is popular? Hopefully you folks won't exile me if I decide not to do 'traditional' cafe styling... I rarely 'do' conventional...

Or, go with what moves me (typically well integrated, flowing lines)? Questions, questions.........

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Post  Luckyboy on Thu 24 Mar - 1:12

Congrats on getting your re-build up and running...
Cafe / Chop who cares, but yeah they are a bit Hardcase Cafe here.. Suspect
Nice guys just the same, for the most part... despite appearances.
I guess you know Turbo, the smaller XV750 tank goes straight on, with a different seat..
so there's an easy option for a 'different look'...
doesn't have that down mouth, hang dog look...oops did I say that.
Anyway you luv the big one, , hey... whatever
I think it's a nice clean look, the fairing just perfect, and tailpiece/light finish off well..
Will enjoy watching as you refine and refine...
What colour you going for, Satin Black maybe...
Horespower = none Torque= enough. I luv them early XV's cheers
Forget about popular, who really gives a shit...
Cafe works because it works, all power to the individual..
go for it mate.

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Post  turbodog on Thu 24 Mar - 2:29

"...as you refine and refine..."

Ah, that's the fun part, yes? As I scan the web, I might just find the perfect tank. I definitely do NOT want a "Zero Cafe" look-alike. Nice bike, but that's been done (and copied...).

To my eye, this bikes biggest styling flaw is the tail piece. It is too big in comparison to the tank. I made it so because I had a perfectly good, 'wet' battery in the shed. I did not want to go pay for a smaller, sealed unit. It needed to stand upright. I may yet go buy a gel battery, and re-make the tail. It will be lower, and slope downward to the rear. I think i would also have the front slope forward some. Easily done, but right now I want to get the turbo bike project into high gear. But, this bike will be an on-going project. All criticisms welcome (yes, even hang-dog, down-mouth comments! :) ). I may not agree (and will say so), but a key reason for these forums is to exchange ideas. I have scanned and posted on a few other "cafe" forums... I like this one best. Maybe hard-case cafe, but open minded to other 'classic' ideas, yes?

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Post  Luckyboy on Thu 24 Mar - 6:46

Cool, I jumped in to soften/edit and seen u posted allready... with good nature Wink
Yeah I have TR1 and have tried to eliminate that rear downward (hangdog) tank tailpiece section..
I prefer smilie attitudes (happy tanks..)

I like rear tailpieces to go up, similar to yours..
not those chinless drop offs that are so common... omg
So watch out, I may criticise you. affraid
ABSOLUTELY this is the best Forum of all... no cranky old coots here.
or bodged down in rules/ regulations and float levels..
The guys do really fine work, they luv their bikes. They are really helpfull
and they have that keen Euroeye for style...
They will now all have to adjust head bands to suit .. haha
Hey I'll tell you what,
you paint it whatever colour you want..
over that undercoat ok... Laughing

Ok I looked again ur bike, and yes is growing on me..
The lines do flow well, and colour is silver not grey..
seems you may have gotten some of it right after all... ohh


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Post  kornfed on Thu 24 Mar - 19:20

Don't get me wrong but I like your bike. ANd a "own" style is always good.
The tank looks pretty good only the seat looks a bit too big. I would make it smaller but still in line whith the tank.
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Post  turbodog on Thu 24 Mar - 21:26

Here is a quick photoshop of my thoughts regarding refinement. I only edited the top of the seat, the top of the tailpiece, and the front edge of the tailpiece:

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Post  Luckyboy on Fri 25 Mar - 1:21

Yeah heaps nicer looking...
the 'electrics' tube can maybe be re-routed...
rid of the kiddies toy reflector and Bob's ur Uncle...

For me, with all that landscape (tank)...
I'd like to see you maybe use a darker colour... (dark makes smaller)
maybe try with ur Photoshop thingy...silver is so silver..
and you such an individual sort of guy..
Pity the true silver alloy is all painted over in black paint...
If that bike was Black and the Motor as it should be... WOW

But then again, with the fins highlighted, looks ok
Guess you know what you like..
I like my alloy straight is all... Motor is what XV is all about.


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Post  turbodog on Fri 25 Mar - 3:27

The electrics... a problem, there. The structural engine means no frame elements going from top to bottom. As you said, the engine is the visual centerpiece (OK, something like that :) ) so don't want to clutter it up. Near the monoshock was the best I could come up with. Even a worse issue with the other XV project... no monoshock.

Ah, the reflectors. Forgot to mention, the bike rejected them. They just disappeared during a ride one day shortly after the Supertrapp installation. Still experimenting with that:


OK, I follow most of the Aussie speak, but "Bob's ur Uncle"? Whoosh! The sound of that going right over my head! Laughing .
Come to think of it, I DO have an Uncle named Bob... how did you know?

Yup, dark on top means light underneath.. maybe someday, not soon...

Thanks for the input!

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Post  Luckyboy on Fri 25 Mar - 3:51

No worries mate, she'll be right...
Hey I think you done real well with ur project..
Yeah I know the electrics. I have no suggestion..
The look is really very clean for an XV...
lets face it,
If they sound grrreat and look cool..
then who gives a shit how they go.. hahah
Pipes... for me I luv the classic twin reverse cone megaphones
say 30 degrees up, per Norton look..
really stick it to em..
So hard to get equal lengths on an XV for single muffler.. ( if it matters to u)
without pipe going everywere...
OMG I just luv underseat pipes...
Maybe a bit of wrap on ur rear header would look the Biz..
Ok so lets move onto ur TurboKickArse eat my dust
Harley Hunter project now... cheers
so I can copy it... Laughing
PS: maybe u can try loosing the 'wind deflector' over the front mount...
just have raw frame and mount, as it is without the crap... which is not needed anyway..
as per Cafe...
Listen up Turbo, this is a Cafe Forum ok.. Wink

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Post  turbodog on Fri 25 Mar - 4:02

"OMG I just luv underseat pipes.."

Me too. Already planned for the turbo bike.

OK, right. Time to stop wanking with this one and move on with the turbo bike.

Oh, off topic but - best of luck to Mark Webber this year. Hope to see him and Massa duking it out for the championship.

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Post  turbodog on Fri 14 Oct - 22:57

Finally changed up the tail section, because I needed the tail light for my turbo bike.
No, it's still not a cafe racer....






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Post  Luckyboy on Sat 15 Oct - 2:42

Five Stars, absolutely great. looks perfect..
Tailpiece and tailpipe tank all in the flow..

Interesting how we can witness, evolution of concept and outcome of work in real time..
once we do the work, we have this ongoing result, to enjoy / alter 24/7
ideas and work growing over,even sometimes many months or years..

Your bike looks like really good and heaps puposefull.
I think ur bike is absolutely cafe, it is less and less, therefore more and more..

Cafe is evolution of a concept.. the development of your motorbike, mans greatest invention..
To do better, that which it allready does, ie: Sports bikes are Sportie, cafe makes it more so..
(but so is just about every bike even 50cc, cafeable I mean, it seems)
Cafe name makes everything arty and harmounious, go like stink, handle well and sound fantastic..
Cafe is dynamic art, along with like minded with whom we share the same concept
learning and growing refining as we grow into it, and we luv it because we can.
I would say your bike is absolutely Cafe racer bike...
except for air scoop, can easily be unscrewed away, heh..
Showing the nice strong engine mount, and coils in their place.
will look aggressive, the hungry crowd will run for cover..
but not us,
we will get our helmets and join you.

and I think original wheels suit it perfectly well.
any news re: TurboTr1




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Post  turbodog on Sat 15 Oct - 5:09

Thank you!
The upsweep of the exhaust matching the line of the bodywork, while keeping the rear of the muffler housing vertical - was the centerpiece of the whole exercise. Thanks for noticing. I am still undecided on the front scoop. on one hand, it is superfluous. On the other, it balances the framing of the engine so perfectly with the forward part of the sidecovers (and from totally different motorcycles!), I have a hard time taking them off. Yes, the evolution/journey is an exciting goal in itself, and I feel this bike has many opportunities for future improvements. But, I am trying not to take time away from the turbobike project.

On that topic, I finished the (undertail!) exhaust and rear subframe; so it is fully apart for, hopefully, the last time as I add minor bracketry and final paint to the frame. Then the EFI. I am building my test-bench, using my bench grinder to spin a flywheel (with crank position sensor) and mock-camshaft (with sensor).

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Post  Luckyboy on Sat 15 Oct - 6:34

EFI project would be fun to follow, are you posting details anywere or still private
and sorting stuff out..
There is a great thread on the rd-rz Forum, EFI Throttle body project right now...
with help form an Expert guy doing EFI for some 30 years or more..

How about posting some pics for us guys to follow ur project with..
Pictures make a forum fun and easy to imagine.. ahhh

Anyway, if you happen to unsrew the plastic deflector and try it for awhile..
I promise never to mention again ok.. I never replaced mine, looks out of place now.. ha
and as you say, super something or other..

I am interested, what is ur reason to convert to EFI, or is it just a mechanica project..
In that, carbs on this engine don't seem to be an 'issue'..
or you after all the regualr EFI benifits and / or are you building a hi-power motor ( i guess so with Turbo)
or is it just easier to manage the Turbo with EFI instead of using a carbie.. ?


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